Discussion in 'Fragging' started by edman, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. edman

    edman Guest

    Norman you can answer this, but where did you get your glue accelator from. Also where did you get that stuff to attach frags/plugs to rock. I see it can be ordered but mostly wondering about the accelator.
  2. lusciousluke

    lusciousluke Blenny

    I picked mine up from HobbyTown USA in Little Rock.  Thats the only place I've been able to find it on the shelf.
    I had talked to Norman about the stuff he uses (from a fish supply, reef safe distributor) compared to the stuff you can buy on the shelf and he wasn't 100% sure if the chemical make-up of the store stuff is reef safe.
    Regardless, the make-up can't be too much different and if you are applying it directly to the glue with a dropper or some sort of applicator instead of spraying it at the frag, you can control the amount much better and prevent it from spraying it all over your frags.  After it quickly dries, you can do a quick rinse to get rid of the residue before you drop in into your tank.
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  3. lusciousluke

    lusciousluke Blenny

    Pet Country in Conway carries the reef putty.  Just cut a chunk off, work it between your fingers till it turns gray, and stick it on.
    You can also use Mighty Putty, its the same binary type epoxy putty.  They also sell it at Target in the "As seen on TV" section.  It dries under water too.  Make sure to push it as far into the cracks as you can.  It doesnt like to stay very tacky when it hits salt water.
    Of course, with any chemical, use only enough to do the job.
    I've used all of these products on various frags and rocks in my 14 gallon Biocube with no ill effects.
  4. tinkereef

    tinkereef Guest

    We don't use an accelerator.  We glue the frag and dip it in salt water a few times.  The glue hardens around the frag and sets up more quickly than just letting it air dry. We have used the reef safe stuff and liked it, but the stuff we bought in a store had alcohol and something else in it that caused everything we used it on to die...  Even using a dropper and controlling the product a bit more some things just aren't compatible with this hobby. 
  5. lusciousluke

    lusciousluke Blenny

     I agree, some things, although seemingly harmless based on listed chemical makeup, just don't work well.
  6. lusciousluke

    lusciousluke Blenny

    I can see how dipping it in salt water would dry it quicker.  The salt water has contaminants in it that accelerates the glue drying reaction process, thus rapidly drying it.  It works much like the accelerator does which contaminates the glue triggering the rapid drying process.
    Dont worry, although I've used the word "contaminate," the holding properties are not affected enough to make any difference in the integrity of the glues holding power.  This type of glue dries and hardens as its supposed to due to the presence of contaminants.
    Sorry for my long windedness.  At one time, I spent way too much time trying to understand why super glue works.  Sniffing the glue itself would probably be more fun than reading my two paragraphs above.  LOL.  I guess I'm a glue geek.
  7. fisher12

    fisher12 Past BOD Director

    I order all my frag supplies from  I like the uniformity and and consistant quality of their products. I consider the cost as minimal compared to the time needed to produce it yourself. I have gone to all ceramic plugs and discs because of the ease of cleaning incrusted plugs and the corals seem to attach themselves very quickly. Also the plugs and discs are easily cut with bone cutters if you don't like the shape or want to make a couple frags from say a plug totally covered with zoos or some other encrusting coral. Hope this helps.
  8. edman

    edman Guest

    Thanks everyone.

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